episode.info
user@podcast:~$ play --episode 10
[S2026E10] 2026-04-13

RIFF084 - Train - Drops of Jupiter

DATE: April 13, 2026
DURATION: 84 minutes
> AUDIO STREAM:
00:00 00:00
VOL:

Show Notes

When A Dream Wrote The Song That Changed Everything

Hosts: Neil & Chris
Duration: ~85 minutes
Release: Not scheduled

Episode Description

Train's 2001 album Drops of Jupiter is one of those records that arrived via a girlfriend rather than a record shop, sitting in that curious no-man's land between rock and pop where critics couldn't quite place it but ten million people absolutely could. Neil and Chris dig into an album that neither of them would necessarily have picked up on their own, and find something genuinely moving underneath the radio-friendly surface.

The centrepiece of the episode is the extraordinary story behind the title track. Pat Monahan's mother had recently died, his marriage was falling apart, and the record label had just told him there were no singles on the album. Then he woke from a dream with every lyric and melody fully formed, wrote the whole thing in fifteen minutes, and flew to New York with a demo in his pocket. The label president heard it, shut his eyes, and said "Song of the Year." He wasn't wrong.

What You'll Hear:

  • The remarkable origin story of Drops of Jupiter, written in a dream about Pat Monahan's late mother
  • Producer Brendan O'Brien's extraordinary back catalogue and why his "room to breathe" approach suited this record perfectly
  • Why the critics completely missed it, scoring it near the bottom while the public pushed it to ten million sales over a slow, grinding chart climb
  • The September 11 connection that killed the planned second single video and forced a last-minute change
  • Mississippi, the album's closing Jeff Buckley tribute, and why both hosts consider it a hidden highlight
  • The 20th anniversary SACD reissue and a broader conversation about analog warmth versus digital production

Featured Tracks & Analysis:

The boys play three tracks in full including Respect, which predated the album on the Dawson's Creek Volume 2 soundtrack, the title track Drops of Jupiter complete with an interview clip from Pat Monahan himself, and the saxophone-laced closer Mississippi. Chris notes that the drums sit perfectly in the pocket throughout the whole record, with the bass lines coming alive particularly in the final three songs. The strings and piano that anchor the title track are flagged as surprisingly dominant for a guitar band, and both hosts agree the deep cuts reward repeated listening far more than the big single alone suggests.

Tangential Gold:

  • Neil's confession about replacing his shoelaces with elastic ones, inspired by his lazy teenage son, and the liberating freedom of never tying a bow again
  • A physiotherapist's blunt diagnosis that Neil is "an old man who doesn't move enough," dismissing his Couch to 5K efforts with magnificent contempt
  • The frog spawn mystery, the Straight of Hormuz not actually being straight, and what it would look like to launch Jeff Bezos into space with only Amazon deliveries for company
  • The Charlie Sheen Christmas Day arrest that somehow involved a disagreement about this very album

Why This Matters:

Drops of Jupiter is a reminder that the most enduring records are often the ones written from genuine pain rather than commercial ambition. The label said there was no single. The critics said it was a pub band Counting Crows. The public disagreed for 54 consecutive weeks on the Adult Contemporary chart. Neil and Chris make a compelling case that the album has aged better than almost anything competing with it at the time, and that its reputation still sits unfairly below what it deserves.

Perfect for: Fans of early 2000s adult rock who know the single but haven't visited the full album in years, anyone curious about the intersection

You can find us here:


[Download Transcript]
Recorded in San Francisco, US
Space Play/Pause · -15s · +30s · M Mute