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[S2025E09] 2025-03-10

RIFF040 - Faith No More - Angel Dust

DATE: March 10, 2025
DURATION: 82 minutes
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Show Notes

When Five Mates Turned Left and Made the Record Nobody Expected

Hosts: Neil & Chris
Duration: ~77 minutes
Release: 10 March 2025

Episode Description

Chris arrives still recovering from a week-long illness that wiped him out completely, Neil had hated Angel Dust for 30 years until preparing for this episode, and both hosts end up blown away by an album that nobody quite knows how to categorize. This is Faith No More at their most defiant, Mike Patton fully integrated into the songwriting process, Jim Martin barely involved and eventually departing, and a record label executive calling it career suicide while the band just got on with making stuff with their mates.

Released in June 1992 into a year absolutely packed with heavy music, Megadeth's Countdown to Extinction, Pantera's Vulgar Display of Power, Rage Against the Machine's debut, Alice in Chains' Dirt, Angel Dust sold 2.5 million copies worldwide by being absolutely nothing like any of them. The Real Thing had been riffy and metal driven with Jim Martin's guitar work dominating, this was Mike Patton's avant garde mishmash, post alt rock, synth heavy, bass driven, genre defying paint splatter on a canvas with Easy as the Commodores cover nobody saw coming.

What You'll Hear:

  • Neil's complete 180 degree turnaround from hating this album 30 years ago to falling completely in love during preparation, unable to relate to the person who dismissed it after one listen because it wasn't the metal he wanted from The Real Thing
  • Chris's memory of buying the actual CD in a shop representing serious purchase commitment, loving the album immediately because it felt like mates making stuff without genre confines, creativity unleashed without overthinking, Dan Baker's "just makes making stuff innit" philosophy epitomized
  • Jim Martin's dissatisfaction with the direction leading to minimal involvement, record was essentially done when he came in at the end to play guitar parts already written, wanted more metal while band veered into experimental territory creating first true Mike Patton Faith No More record
  • Record label Slash calling it career suicide, built metal fan base with The Real Thing expecting another metal album but band said how do you like this instead in bratty way, Roddy Bottom explaining Angel Dust as beautiful name for hideous drug fitting the band perfectly
  • San Francisco Bay Area scene influence, slash records underground label doing massive bands, eclectic music environment from Bob Marley to unheard of punk bands creating mishmash inevitability, Mabuhay Gardens regular venue gigs building community where fans became bands
  • Mike Patton's expanded role writing lyrics over longer period avoiding term paper approach of sitting down in bad mood creating entirely mad album, L Ron Hubbard personality test and fortune cookies inspiration, white trash neighborhood character sketches, sex songs where farther from sex the better

Featured Tracks & Analysis:

Midlife Crisis became the defining single underpinned by bass guitar work creating space for texture, Everything's Ruined as Neil's standout that he could put on repeat endlessly, Land of Sunshine kicking in with big thick heavy guitars despite album being less guitar driven overall, Easy cover recorded for something else becoming so popular it got added to UK represses in 1993 though original 1992 versions didn't have it. Album credited entirely to Patton for writing showing his dominance over direction, polished yet edgy production from Matt Wallace using Mesa Boogie amps when big metal used Marshalls, tracks could be reordered without losing coherence because songs unique and original not requiring album flow, no path at all completely aimless as Mike described it. Avant garde metal and alternative metal genre tags missing the mark, more post alt rock with synths and bass taking sonic space guitars occupied on The Real Thing, bizarro masterpiece per Rolling Stone ranking 65th in 100 greatest metal albums despite not really being metal, influenced Dillinger Escape Plan who cited Faith No More as teaching confidence to make extreme chaotic stuff without commercial concerns.

Tangential Gold:

  • Opening illness discussion, Chris's Friday afternoon headache sending him to bed waking up Monday morning having lost five kilograms, 111 operator's diagnostic question "is it coming out the top or the bottom love" determining he'd be fine, modern society's lost "oh you'll be fine" dismissiveness replaced by solemnity and drama
  • Independent music venue extinction crisis, Kennel Club poster showing Bob Marley/Short Dogs Grow/Eugene Chadbourne/Sea Hags Crime/Dead Milkman night after night, Music Venue Trust getting percentage of £200 Ticketmaster tickets funding grassroots venues where scenes form, Norwich's cafe bars with live music spaces as nucleus for local musicians hanging out forming bands
  • Wild Hearts' Satanic Rites sending Chris down back catalog binge through Thunder and Gun's Gallus and Swagger, Spirit Box and Architects new metalcore releases, complete new Wild Hearts lineup still sounding exactly like Ginger vomiting Wild Hearts
  • Next week Rage Against the Machine self titled album teased throughout episode, Sound City recording with Garth Richardson producing, political band no longer cool with Tom Morello posts getting ripped apart for being the machine, $400 tour tickets contradicting anti capitalist messaging creating fascinating tension
  • Riffology rebrand continuing success, both hosts still accidentally writing Monster Shop when Gemma asks where are you, feeling like somebody else's podcast slowly becoming theirs like writing 2024 in 2025, desperate pursuit of riffology.com domain requiring £100 GoDaddy back order

Why This Matters:

Angel Dust captures the exact moment a band chose artistic integrity over commercial safety, record label screaming career suicide while band made exactly what they wanted to make surrounded by 1992's unprecedented heavy music year. Lost Jim Martin but gained Mike Patton's full creative voice, influenced generation of experimental metal bands by proving genre boundaries exist to be ignored, taught Dillinger Escape Plan and countless others that mates making stuff in a room matters more than fitting commercial expectations. Album's 2.5 million sales proved accessible doesn't require conventional when songwriting serves vision, Easy becoming massive hit despite or because of being Commodores cover on experimental metal album nobody could categorize. San Francisco Bay Area eclectic scene made this mishmash inevitable, same environment producing punk and Bob Marley side by side created band comfortable splashing paint on canvas seeing where it lands, Matt Wallace's polished yet edgy production threading needle between accessible and challenging. Rolling Stone's bizarro masterpiece designation perfect, beautiful name for hideous drug Roddy Bottom explanation capturing duality, album you can reorder without losing coherence because each song stands alone as unique original statement refusing neat categorization.

Perfect for: Listeners who believe best albums come from bands making stuff with mates without overthinking genre confines, students of how artistic defiance builds lasting legacy over commercial compromise, fans of bass and synth driven post alt rock refusing metal categorization despite metal fan embrace, believers that 1992 represented peak year for heavy music experimentation, musicians learning confidence from Faith No More's example that it's okay to make what you want regardless of expectations, anyone who dismissed this 30 years ago and needs to give it another chance with open ears, supporters of independent music venue preservation recognizing scenes form in grassroots spaces not corporate amphitheaters, admirers of Mike Patton's evolution from Real Thing hired gun laying vocals over finished songs to Angel Dust full creative collaborator shaping direction, defenders of albums that divide fans because they refuse to repeat past successes.

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