there we go you see i i do you know i love eddie vedder's kind of
i um i sing to this album in the car a lot do you no idea what he's singing no no idea what i don't
know what the lyrics mean don't know what the words mean yeah all that all that yeah all that
yeah screaming along and and and you get really self-conscious if anyone sees you singing away
in the car because you think oh what if they know the words to this no one knows the words i don't
think is it the opposite of bon jovi yes it is if you yeah it's one of those things where i think if
you ever find out what the words to any of these pearl jam songs actually are eddie vedder comes
and kills you that's the way it works you get edited it's like final destination do you know what i mean
yeah yeah yeah vedder yeah he just turns up darth vedder like
he just turns up like like i don't know like three o'clock in the morning and just looks at you and
you you know and then he just murders you you know the words now that's it yeah yeah just murders
you on the spot so this is you know what because we've done uh a pearl jam album in this podcasty
format already yeah we have we did vitology didn't we did yeah yeah yeah and that's a punkier affair
that was like later on in the album number two three three three verses yeah yeah so um someone
corrects on that we did we got very well yeah you've got i've got a bone to be somebody um
um yeah i think it was last week when we think it was kendall kendall said that you um you suggested
that uh pearl jam had not had a line of change and they've had quite a few drummers lots of drummers
and then you said drummers don't count
so this is part of the part of the joy of this podcast can i say that lindsay strongly disagreed
with that strongly disagree with with you saying drummers don't count did she yeah
strongly disagree she just said strong disagree
she did that's on a survey that's like one end of the survey isn't it i don't i don't i don't know
strongly agree strongly i just think you are in trouble i think the next time the next time you
are a gig in lenses there you are in trouble this is part of the game for me though like
what like it's what are we going to get wrong this week and i quite like that
what a tagline yeah that's just epic isn't it yeah just tell us what we get wrong it's a brilliant
what are they going to screw up this week that is bloody brilliant so
there can't be many podcasts that that's their um no no no that's a usp is that we might get some
stuff wrong and that you you might have to correct us on some stuff yeah i do i quite like that to be
fair but um um uh we so last week we did temple of the dog so it's worth saying we're riffology
oh riffology that's us yeah i'm i'm neil you're chris um we don't really know what we're doing
we turn up we can't we've got we're like um the beauty is lots of people don't know what they're
doing with us so it's great we're on a journey together learning together everyone's listening
everyone's putting us right we're on a journey of education in collaboration we we we turn up uh we're i was
gonna say a little bit like puppies do you know what i mean that yeah the enthusiasm no idea what
we're doing really but we turn up anyway um every week we pick an album like an iconic album or an
album that we think is pretty epic and we we just turn up and we um we learn about it yeah we remember
the songs we play bits of the songs we play interviews uh of the making of it people that were
involved in it and we remind ourselves a little bit about what it was that was special about it and what
else was happening in the world you know what i mean what what kind of stuff happened after what
led up to it yeah we always have free pastels we do i've got the wrong it's been a bit of a drama
today because we normally have cans of coke we do yeah and i went to i went to the little sainsbury's
next they don't sell that in my house don't sell that um they i could buy eight cans but i only want
to so i had to get bottles yeah from the free but so that was a bit of a drama and then i went to the
sweetie aisle yeah and then um they didn't diet coke or coke zero mainly coke zero actually yeah you're
a coke zero yeah and then and then the thing is the fruit pastels we normally get the red and black
i couldn't find them no i even asked some i said have you got any red and black ones what
so i had to get the normal ones yeah so it's a bit of a drama so if you want to send us some uh round
trees and uh coca-cola oh my god could you imagine that do you know people have lots of people have
reached out to us about sponsorship have they yes yeah that's good i i'm not convinced they're real
they're mostly jewelry brands telling us that they feel our aura wow our aura matches their own
yeah yeah yeah and if we give them like 500 pounds oh i see right send us some yeah we'll get some for
500 pounds yeah yeah i don't want i don't i i don't know i had an aura did you do you have an aura i think
i have yeah what's your aura key aura key aura i loved that key aura adverts um anyway shall we talk
about 10 10 is a great album this is an album that i had on cd and i had the real one on cd i didn't burn
it this was 1991 i didn't have it in 1991 now the problem with this is you could not have burnt this in
1991 there was no such thing as the cdr in 1991 do you know what you would have had in 1991
you'd have had a tdk c90 yeah yeah yeah yeah and you'd have had this someone's one actually this is a
long album this is yeah it's got 53 minutes wow right so you might have if you were clever what you
might have that's the wrong side of 45 minutes for you isn't it yeah you might have got a c60
yes and half half each side as long as it didn't cut halfway through a track that would have been a bit
of a drama for me and i had to go and get the c90 um which would have upset me because then i'd have
had like an uneven balance on the side well then i've got like 53 minutes i've got 50 60 70 18 i've
got 40 minutes yeah yeah yeah yeah of space and what am i going to do with that yeah do you start it
again what do you do what do you do i don't know i mean you could put your favorite bits on the end
yeah you could put another album on the end you could record your own version of the song
you could you could have using in a whatever um i don't know what you would do with that one but
you would have had that on cassette i would have had that on you accept i was later so i came to it in
96 97 when i was right where you did have line wire and the cdrs yes and the viruses that went along
with it yeah yeah yeah but at the time uh no i had i bought that properly on cd because i loved it that
much uh yeah i i think this one for me would definitely have been a tdk c90 yeah in the car
i would have had a six cd multi-changer uh on the sony thing that spun around that was a bit
fancy well i'd have it on going around while i was asleep and then every time the disc changer went
and crunched and i'd wake up and it'd wake me up because it'd be noisy and then it'd relax again and
then go back to sleep again um and it would have probably been jeff buckley it would have been grace
it would have been this yeah it would have been both cds from melancholy that's for what else would
have been in there august and everything after and possibly performance of cocktails that would
have been what would be covering satellites oh no actually you're right yeah recovering satellites
sorry because i yeah that's interesting i've been listening to counting crowds a lot this week yeah
they've got some new stuff haven't they they have but that's not i i started to listen back to
um i heard somebody talking about uh the recording the production on august and everything after
being it was listed it was an article i read about like the 20 best albums for audio files yeah okay
and i read and i just thought these are all crap and then you know what i mean the counting crows was
there and i thought oh yeah for august was yeah oh wow okay and all they've done is just looked at
the dino they've literally gone onto a database and gone show me all the ones with high dynamic range
as in like quiet bits and loudy bits yeah right and you're like i could do that
it does that i suppose doesn't it just go quiet and loud yeah yeah and but anyway i went back and
listened to that and i thought oh guys this really it is a great record and then and then i kind of
worked my way through to some of their newer stuff and they've got a new album um a new album working
through as well yeah yeah but yeah it kind of reminded me that when we when we did recovering
the satellites um i don't know just kind of how different those um and and yeah yeah it applies
a little bit to pearl jam too because like august and everything after went to recovering the
satellites it was a radical change yeah in in production and in yeah um i was thinking seasons
i've got a thing about music and albums and seasons and august and everything after is like early or it's
autumn yeah yeah yeah and recovering the satellites is like the dead of winter yeah yeah yeah it's um
yes it's a dark much darker record i think but the the same is true here like 10 for me from pearl jam
feels i was going to say produced but it doesn't it but it sounds commercial it's very commercial it was
the use of chorus the use of those kind of shimmery modulation effects yeah lots of very very posh reverbs
at the time um and that kind of really it was very lush i always thought it sounded really lush
tended this this particular version of it obviously there was a version later yes that um is it brendan
o'brien remixed yeah yeah and that's a rocky that's a rocky affair was that the redux yes yeah yeah no i
actually really enjoyed that i thought you know as a general rule we don't like those things do we
no i i'm not i i'm with you i i thought that was very very good didn't screw that up so that was nice
and you said big you know big fat rock sound on that yeah this was a bit as you say it's kind of pop
in a way you know it's a yeah it's a it there's no there's nothing unpleasant on this album at all
there's no like sharp edges there's no dissonance to it at all it's all um reminds me of what you'd
get from mutt lang yes you know i mean it's this kind of um like stadium rock do you know what i mean
it's there's no sharp edges nothing that's going to upset you no nothing's going to wake you up if
you fall asleep do you know what i mean there's nothing there that's gonna until the next cd comes on
yeah um but then when they went to verses and vitalogy yeah that tone change and it just gets
yeah you get that it's um drier sharper this is this is a very wet sounding album that sounds really
really weird it's reverby reverby yeah it's a wet sounding album whereas the other two were really
quite bone dry weren't they it is there are hints of where they were going on here as well because you've
got porch which i really like on here so a lot of this album to me doesn't sound like pearl jam
i love it but it does you know what i mean it's not it doesn't sound like pearl jam um where porch for
me is where that's that's pearl jam that's what they sound or that's where they you know when i think of
pearl jam that's what they sound like yeah if that makes sense and it's they kind of um i just kind of
grew into this like snarling beast
what the fuck is this world running to you didn't leave a message at least i could have learned your voice
one last time daily mind till this could be my time by you would you hate me would you hate me
all the bills roll by and these details are taken off by the metal there ain't gonna be any metal anymore and the cross
i'm bearing home
it didn't take until both my place left the boards left the boards
oh
bear my name
take a good look
this could be the day before my death
walk beside me
i just need you to stay
guitar solo
I hear my name, take a good look
This could be the day, hold my hand
Like beside me, I just need you to stay
What would I say, I just want to dance
I know and I would not have turned you
Hold you, feel you, am I home?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
It's nice to meet other musicians and we spent two days in Germany with Bad Religion and I'm trying to think of some of the other bands that we like.
It feels like family too. You know, you can relate because you're going through the same things and you understand each other and it's nice.
That to me, that's like part of the family whether it's underground, overground, out of ground. It doesn't matter because you can do the same thing you've always done and all of a sudden you won't be underground anymore.
So it has nothing to do with you. So that's why you can't judge it. That's why you can't even pay any attention to it.
I mean I certainly don't and I would hope a listener doesn't either. It's a very strange thing. I mean you don't do anything different. You write the same songs, you're still talking even about the same songs, those same songs can all of a sudden cross over and now all of a sudden everybody looks at you differently.
Nothing's changed. So you really can't listen to again the talk, listen to music, listen to the, look at the paintings when you talk about a painter. Don't talk about like the hype or the art or the scene.
It doesn't matter. So it can be a good thing where more people can hear music that they should be hearing, you know, that expresses themselves, that is art that they relate to, that is art that has aggression.
Produced by the same producer, a guy called Rick Parashar, who did Temple of the Dog.
Okay. So they'd already built that relationship through that period with him.
But he also did. And then he also came on and did this. Wow.
He did Facelift, Blind Melon.
Blind Melon are great.
They are great, aren't they?
A band I've been listening to this week is Therapy.
It's just mega, isn't it?
Yeah.
Isn't it? It's funny how albums just hit you and you just think, I'll probably not listen to that for 20 years.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And somebody said that, I'm going to go off on a little bit of a tangent.
It's not like us to do this.
It was the 50th anniversary of Where I Work.
Oh, wow.
This week or last, this week, I think.
Anyway, it was the 50th anniversary.
And our Irish subsidiary did a playlist on Spotify.
Right.
Of all of the greatest Irish bands across all the generations.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
And then someone shared it and says, you like music.
So they shared it with me.
And do you know what wasn't there?
Anything.
It was just full of rubber, just junk.
And I'm like, what is this?
And then the lady that put it together said, well, what would you have put on it then?
Oh, really?
Oh, no.
I was like going, I shall provide you a list of great Irish musicians.
Thank you very much.
And then went on to deliver a whole bunch of stuff that Gary Moore wasn't even on it.
Wow.
How can you not have Gary Moore on your thing?
It's Gary Moore Irish.
Yeah.
I didn't know this.
And then you didn't have, like, there's a bloody statue of Feline Art in the downstairs of Dublin.
And how can you not?
No thinlissing?
No.
Cranberries?
But the thing that hit me was, Therapy are Irish as well.
Are they Irish?
I didn't know that either.
I don't know.
I don't know anything, really.
You don't.
You're useless.
Why do you?
Why am I doing this podcast?
Why are you here?
But yeah, no.
Anyway, that's a mild, a mild wander off the beaten path for us.
But yeah, it didn't, it didn't upset me.
I was just disappointed.
You know, when you think, how can you not know?
I wasn't angry.
I was just disappointed.
And they put U2 in it.
Did they?
Yeah.
Is it good U2 though?
No.
Oh.
Because I've got some good ones.
Yeah.
The old stuff was all right before they went mad.
Do you know what I mean?
It was before the ego got bigger than the studio they were in.
And then, and then I didn't like that.
Where the Streets Have No Name.
Great song.
I didn't like it when they put their album in my iTunes.
Yes.
Oh yeah, no, that's, that's a bit presumptuous, isn't it?
Didn't like that.
Yeah.
Didn't like that.
I don't, you don't do that, do you?
No.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah.
You don't, you don't just, you don't just like come in someone's ears like that, do you?
What without asking first?
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You can't, it's just, it's just downright rude.
Hard drive consent.
That's what it is.
It's just rude, I think.
It's just unpleasant.
Anyway, we were talking about Rick Parashar's production.
I hadn't realised, it's him and his brother, and the studio is, and I've got it on my list
here, it's a studio called London Bridge.
Wow.
In Seattle, and it was like an epicentre of the grunge scene.
Yeah, yeah.
There's like tons and tons of stuff.
And it's called London Bridge, that's a cool name, isn't it?
It is, isn't it?
Yeah.
Tons of stuff was there, and then there was a bit of finishing that was done in Ridge
Farm in Surrey, apparently, but the vast majority was done in London Bridge.
But I hadn't realised that Temple of the Dog and Ten were done.
You know, we talked last week about how the Temple of the Dog and Ten, they weren't that
far apart.
They got released only about four months or so apart.
There was a whole bunch of kind of, you know, like Chris Cornell and Soundgarden, and then
he came off tour, and then Eddie Vedder was coming up there, and then what was Mother
Love Bone?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then these musicians just kind of looking for stuff to do, because they've all got like
bands that have just, you know, have stopped recording for whatever reason, and then end
up in various studios.
And then you've got Temple of the Dog, and then you've got Ten.
But it was interesting, I think it was interesting, the tone.
Because you can kind of hear, it's a very, it's a similar, well, it's a similar tone, I think,
but it's, you can kind of hear, I think, the, like the flavour of where Pearl Jam would
become from Temple of, Temple of the Dog's like a different album.
Yes.
But I can hear where that's going.
Yeah, yeah, totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think one of the things I remember from when we were talking about Temple of the Dog
is it was like, it was like a jam with lyrics.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what it felt like, and whereas what you've got coming through here, and also what
Chris Cornell was doing with Soundgarden, is that then the song craft came.
I think, yeah, I think there's more time to, I think there was just much more time to caress
this.
I think Temple of the Dog was like, in the studio, bing bang bosh.
Yeah.
Your man there twiddled some knobs and then banged it out, right?
Yeah, yeah.
It was great.
And then down the pub, right?
I think that was kind of where they are.
I think this, they kind of realised, actually, this is a bit.
Yeah, we got it.
It feels like with this album, they've got something to say.
We basically made the record, I guess it was three or four months after becoming a band,
so I think it's a very raw and very young sounding record, which is exactly where we were at that
time.
I think that's kind of how this band wants to operate, but letting some of the rough edges
show and just being honest with where we're at musically.
Well, we're playing these songs live, you know, every night, and they're definitely even
being taken to a different space, but even as far as like the new stuff that we're writing
and mind you, I'm incredibly proud of that record.
This band pretty much looks to the future, pretty much at all times, at least.
It seems to be growing by leaps and bounds.
Yeah, exactly.
And they've got some songs, they've got some stories.
It wasn't well-funded.
Really?
Yeah.
That surprises me.
It wasn't particularly well-funded.
So they, it was funded, I think it was Epic, I'm checking my notes.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was Epic that funded it, a month, four weeks in the studio.
Yeah.
So you're actually in the, in the studio itself.
Sort of top to tail, writing, tracking, that kind of thing.
I think they'd written it.
Yeah.
I think it was mostly written.
Right.
And then, and then they'd kind of just gone in there, but four weeks isn't a long time
to go and bang out an album.
I mean, well, not, not this one.
No.
Well, it's a long record as well.
There's like, there's a, what is it?
How many tracks?
There's quite a few tracks on it, aren't there?
There are 11.
Yeah.
Well, it's shipped with 11, 53 minutes long, which is too long, but it's, the tracks are
not long though.
The tracks, I think the tracks are really good.
It doesn't feel like a long record to me.
It doesn't feel like a long record to me either.
It feels like it's kind of over, like, you know, the, the longest,
track, although the last track is nine minutes released.
But most of them are kind of like three, four, five minutes, which is an acceptable length.
So that, that, that, so, so if it was a normal length last song, then you'd be down, you'd
shave off, you know, yeah, you'd be down to 45 minutes, which is, which is an, yeah, an
acceptable length.
Maybe that's why it doesn't feel long.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
One side of a CD90, whatever it is, TDK90.
Yeah.
That's one side.
You'd fit it on one side, wouldn't you?
And then you could put something on.
You could put Temple of the Dog on the other.
Yeah, there you go.
You've got a bang in C90 then, haven't you?
Yeah.
That's a good C90.
You've got a bang in C90.
You'd have to all handwritten.
I love seeing that.
You know, when people share pictures and stuff, I love to see the handwritten.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's a, you might know this already.
In fact, I'm sure our listeners do, but there is a, um, a cassette tape from Metallica with
James, or Lars, I think it was, handwrote when they did their thing.
And it's the one that got sent to Metal Blade and kind of started to get the sign.
And it's in, uh, I want to say it's in, oh God, it's in LA somewhere.
It's in one of the, it's in one of the, the, the hard rock things.
Enshrined, did it?
Yeah, it is.
And it's the original, the original tape.
The thing that I hadn't realised about that, um, was that there's, if you go onto eBay and
look for them, there's thousands of them.
Right, wow.
And people just see the picture of it and then write it themselves and then, and then
try and tell it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So yeah, oh yeah, yeah, totally legit, mate.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, and then try and, try and tell it.
So be careful of that if you are looking for it.
Um, should we do some minor facts?
Let's do some minor facts.
Um, so, uh, let me go through and do my thing.
So released August 27th, 1991.
So it was a summer album.
It was, yeah.
Album title, 10, original name of the band.
Do you know what this, do you know this story?
I don't know this story, no.
So, uh, initially named Mookie Blaylock.
Mookie Blaylock was, and I might get that he was a basketball player.
Right.
Um, and do you know what the number on his shirt was?
Go on, see if you can get it.
Yeah.
10.
10, yeah.
Right, okay.
Um, and they, cause they really liked him.
So, um.
You're making this up.
I'm not.
I should do not.
This is true.
And then, um, yeah.
And, and, and then I don't know where Pearl Jam itself came from.
No.
But that was the original, the original name.
Yeah.
Um, and then, yeah.
And then they, they eventually, they, uh, yeah, they changed, uh, changed their name to
Pearl Jam.
So, um, I, I'm not sure that they would have been that successful if they'd have, if they'd
have remained Mookie Blaylock.
No.
It's not got the same, it doesn't roll off the tongue quite as well, doesn't it?
No.
Pearl Jam really, really rolls off the tongue.
Yeah.
It's cool, isn't it?
Yeah.
The album artwork designed by Jeff Ament and Lance Mercer.
Um, I think it's really interesting, the, the, um, the album art for this one.
It's kind of like, like it could be anybody.
Yes.
You kind of know who it is.
Yeah.
Do you know what I mean?
It is such an iconic cover though, at the same time.
It is.
It's kind of backlit as well.
Yeah.
You know, the Pearl Jam bit of it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's not flat.
It's kind of backlit.
I, uh, and you can see when they're, like, they're armed.
It's like, it's like in front of a, like a billboard or something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um, yeah, no, I, I quite like that.
I like the, I like the interesting album cover.
I think that's really cool.
Um.
What's your favourite thing about this album?
Oh, um, do you know what stands out to me hugely is, uh, do you remember, um, Guitar
Hero on the, oh, what was it on?
PlayStation 2 probably.
I can't remember.
No, it wasn't PlayStation 4, but it was Even Flow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And it was learning to play Even Flow on the plastic guitar.
And I love that.
Um, the thing that stands out for me on this record, what do I really like about it?
Um, I, it, it, it's, there's just something.
There's something about this record that like always has them, just pulls you in.
Yeah.
So you, I said at the, um, the beginning a little bit that, um, you know, some albums are like
headphone albums and some are speaker albums.
And this, this one's just an album that just needs to be played slightly louder than you'd
probably think it should.
Yeah.
And you know what I mean?
And then, and then it, it like, I find it really difficult to switch it off.
It kind of comes in and you know, because you know, there's another amazing song coming
like this.
The songwriting just is, it's just phenomenal, but it feels effortless.
It doesn't feel crap.
It's not like a Def Leppard record where you kind of know that they agonized over every bar
of that record had Nut Lang kind of going, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That needs to be a key high.
That needs to be like a fraction here and a fraction.
This feels like organic, but the songwriting feels phenomenal.
It just, it's like, I'm going to say authentic.
It feels just, um, yeah, it just feels phenomenal.
And I love the production on it as well.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
How about you?
Um, it's the, it's the, the thing that I love about it now is the thing I didn't quite
like about it when I first heard it because I'd heard like friend, I'd, I'd heard friends
cover songs from this before I'd heard the record.
Oh, gotcha.
If that makes sense.
So the way I'd listened to this record was like people playing it really raw with maybe
an acoustic guitar and hitting it hard and, and all that sort of stuff.
And then when you listen to the song, you said earlier, it's, it's, it's not got very jagged
edges.
It's quite rounded as a sound.
It's quite, um, it's not punky, is it?
It doesn't feel raw.
No, no, it's really, it's really quite, you know, there's bits like chorus and reverbs and
stuff on, on, and it's quite shimmery.
It's quite shimmery sounding record.
And at the time when I first heard it, I went, Oh, I quite like it raw.
I'm not quite sure about all this, all this stuff on it, but actually over time, I think
as you get older, you don't mind a bit of chorus.
No.
I said about this with Dan Baker, who we speak about every now and then.
It's an age thing, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a maturity.
I used to like everything really crunched and really heavy and really like oversaturated
and driven and punchy and now.
Smashing pumpkins.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Um, and jagged and that sort of thing.
And, and, and, you know, hearing this now, it's those little, little moments like in Jeremy
where you've got that in those little harmonics at the start and there's just a little bit,
probably too much reverb on him.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I like that.
It does.
Yeah.
It is very reverb-y.
It's very, everything's kind of, it's a lovely reverb, but it's a lush sound that I think
it's lushness that I really like.
Yeah, actually, that's a brilliant way of describing it.
I think you described it as wet earlier and I'm preferring, I'm preferring lush to wet, if
I'm honest, for, for this album.
And I, but you're right.
I think there's an energy to it.
Yeah.
There's a, there's an, there's a, an energy and a drive to probably two thirds of the record,
I think, where the tracks are kind of upbeat and, and driven.
And then there are some that are just, I don't know, like Jeremy is a brilliant example of
that, where it kind of is this, I don't know, it is lush, isn't it?
It's kind of, just kind of pulls you in.
But there's space.
Yeah.
There's space.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
There's space between everything.
And there's space.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The people of the world are the earth like butterflies
Oh, we don't know, slowly chases them away, yeah
He'll begin his life again, life again, life again
I'm leaving, looking through the paper though he doesn't know to read
Oh, praying, not just something that has never showed him anything
Oh, feeling, understands the weather of the winter's on his way
Oh, feeling, still and far between all the legal halls the same
Yeah
Even though he walks around like butterflies
Oh, he don't know, so he chases them away, yeah
Oh, something, yeah
He'll begin his life again
Oh, whispering hands
Send me, feel him away
Yeah, my way
The chorus is one tempo and the verse is another and never shall the twain shall meet
What you're in love with and you think, well, it's not quite there yet
And then you look back on it and go, it was probably any one of those first five takes were it's fine
And wasn't our drummer Dave Kruzan at the time?
Not yet
I think his girlfriend was in the hospital giving birth, maybe
Yeah
I was like, no, sorry, man
You gotta stay here until this big time
Oh, my God
Even though he was a hurt like butterflies
Oh, he don't know
Even though he was a hurt like butterflies
Oh, he don't know
He evens the home
Cause they're hurt like butterflies
Oh, he don't know
So he chases them away
Oh, I'm slumped in
He'll begin his life again
Oh, I'm always bringing plans
To lead him away
Well, my problem was having made a record before
I thought Take Two was unbelievable
I was kind of just giving it
I was going to prove
I was just giving everything I had
Every take
No one told me
We'll end up singing this again
We've learned our lesson since then
I don't think we played anything more than
Three takes on the new record
You get older and wiser
Did you like my editing there?
What I did
Yeah
I just watched Chris edit some of the podcast
It feels weird
Like watching you edit it while we're doing it
Yeah, because normally we do a big long record
You do
And then we cut it up and put the bits in the place
Yeah
But tonight I fancied a change
Doing it in the mix
In the mix
Doing it live in the mix
We can do it in the mix
I was doing facts
And then we got distracted
Shall I carry on doing some facts?
Let's go back to facts
So in the band
This particular time
Yes
Was Eddie Vedder on the vocals
Mike McCready on lead guitar
Stone Gossard, rhythm guitar
Jeff Ament on bass guitar
Now they're the regulars
Yeah
And then Dave Crewson on drums
Now Dave left
Yeah
Just after they recorded
Yeah
But that doesn't matter
Do you know why?
No
Went into rehab didn't he?
Something like that
But also his girlfriend had a child
That's what the little bit was I just put in
Like drawing the record
He went into
He goes into rehab
And I wonder if that's why
Because he had a child
Wants to kind of go and get clean
Yeah yeah yeah
And he's a drummer
And no one cares
I didn't mean that
Drummers
I didn't mean that
I'm only joking
I can't believe that
I didn't realise
I didn't realise there were
Multiple drummers in Pearl Jam
I thought it was just the same guys
I just love the idea
Of you in the studio
And your band drummer turns up
And you're like
Who are you?
What are you doing?
And then it's going
That's our drummer
Yeah
Oh
Alright
Come in
And then you're just like
You can constantly go
What's your name again?
Yeah
The whole recording session
I'm just
Anyway
We were talking a little bit
About the London Bridge Studios
In Seattle
Established in 1985
By Rick and Raj Parashar
London Bridge
Did tons of the Seattle scene
Like they went in there
So that was almost like
The sound city for grunge then
Yeah
High ceilings and hardwood floors
Really?
Now
You don't need to hear much more than that
Yeah
To know that's what
You know what that room sounds like
But just from that
High ceiling and hardwood floors
Yeah
It's the room space
Isn't it
Tightly mic'd kit
And then the
The room
Yeah
Anyway that was really excellent
Recorded the album in one month
In March 1991
Also did Temple of the Dog
Which is pretty excellent
I think
It was recorded on a
Neve 8048
It says
Oh beautiful
Well it's very
Analogy
Yeah
It's got that lovely sound to it
I think as well
That's part of the
Part of the lush that is actually
The lushness
Yeah
Interestingly after
Dave
Leaves
So he leaves after the recording
Sessions are finished
Oh really?
But the album's not
Mastered and mixed
Yeah
So it was mastered still in
Sorry
It was mixed in Seattle
Yeah
Chris has just taken the top off his coke
I did it on the mic
Because I thought
I can't do it subtly
So I might as well just make a bit of a meal of him
Yeah so it was mixed in Seattle
And then mastered at Ridge Farm Studios in Surrey
In Surrey
In England
Surrey
Yeah so for those that are local
We're from not far from Birmingham
And Surrey
Is how people from Birmingham say sorry
Surrey
I've never even thought of that
What?
Yeah there we know
Well it's true
Yeah
No offence to people from Surrey or Birmingham
But it's true
That's just the way it is
Surrey
It is isn't it?
It is
If you look Giza Butler
Yeah
He would come in right now
Aussie
Yeah
Aussie would come in right now
He would knock something off
And he'd say
Surrey
Wouldn't he?
He would
That's what Aussie sounds like
That's why Aussie sounds like that
You should do like teaching people accents
Because he's from Birmingham
Surrey
Anyway it was
Yeah so it was finished off by Tim Palmer
In Surrey
And it's really interesting
That a lot of the albums
Like final tone
Is down to Tim
Apparently
Wow right
Rick recorded
Rick Parishar did
Alice in Chains' Facelift
Temple of a Dog
Blind Melon
It's a good album
We should consider doing that one as well
And then Ten as well
Other interesting facts
Do you imagine this did well or not
When it was released?
I can imagine the singles did well
Like the videos
But maybe the album didn't sell as much
Until let's say a live comes out
Or something like that
So it was released in August
Yeah
Ninety-one
By the end of ninety-two
Ten was number two on the chart
So it took a year
From release
To
Doing anything
And that's because
God that must be disheartening
When it was released
No one cared about grunge
Yeah
There wasn't a grunge scene
At that point
And you have to
So
I see
As like Nirvana
And it was bizarre
Thinking about it at this time
But
Pearl Jam were bigger than Nirvana
Yes
At this point
Yeah
Do you know what I mean
It was only
It was only kind of after
Kurt Cobain died
That Nirvana got this
Yeah
You know
Kurt became the face
If you like
Of the grunge scene
Yeah
But yeah
Anyway
As the grunge scene grew
This album grew
And then just
Just became a monster
Yeah
Just became absolutely massive
Which is
I always find fascinating
That
I'm trying to think of other albums
That did this
Hysteria
Death Leopard's Hysteria
It was released and no one cared
Yeah
And then they went to America
Yeah
There's a few
Where they're just like
Nothing
Like nothing happened
And then
You know
Whatever
You know
The things happened
And it became huge
You just assume
Don't you
That you
Yeah
You know
You release a thing
And if it's a great thing
Everyone's going to find it
Yeah
No it doesn't
So it takes time
Absolutely did not
For this one
It was multi-platinum
In loads of countries
Certified
13 times platinum
In
In the US
Which is
I mean just
Nuts
Loads of awards
It got an award for Jeremy
The music video
Great
Yeah
Which is
That's kind of the one
That I remember
From this
This era
Everybody
Adored this album
The critics
Oh really
Everybody just
Gushed over this album
It's really interesting
I think if you follow
The critics
With Pearl Jam
They
They just keep
Harping back
Saying well
You're not doing
Anything new
Do you know what I mean
If you look at what
The same critics
Talk about Metallica
Yeah
Keep saying
Why are you doing
Something different
Yeah
Do you know what I mean
What's all this about
Why are you not doing
This
I just kind of want
Can't win
Yeah
So anyway
The critics
As you go on
Through Pearl Jam albums
The critics
I think they've run out
Of stuff
Do you know what I mean
Yeah
Other albums released
In the same year
Nevermind
Yeah
Bad Motor Finger
Yeah
Blood Sugar Sex and Magic
And Out of Time
By R.E.M.
I listened to some R.E.M.
This week actually
R.E.M. are great
It's so good
They are
They're a band
They're another band
Like
Yeah
A bit like Queen
For me
And Metallica
There's a few others
Where you can play
Like a three second clip
Of any song in their catalogue
And you know exactly who it is
Even if you've never heard
The album before
You know where it's
Yeah they've got a thing
Yeah there's like
A certain thing
Where else did I get to here
Singles
Even Flow
Alive
Jeremy
And Oceans
Oceans didn't chart very well
Right
Didn't do particularly well
The big ones
Even Flow Alive
And Jeremy
Yeah
Which is
Is pretty cool
They cite influences
As Led Zeppelin
The Who
And Neil Young
Right
Okay
Yeah
That makes
You know what
If
Yeah
If you cross sectioned
All of those bands
And mushed them all together
You'd get Pearl Jam
Wouldn't you
Yeah
I was kind of expecting them
To quote stuff more
From like the Seattle punk scene
You know
Duff McKagan
Talks about
Is it the Melvins
Yeah
There's a bunch of other stuff
From Seattle
The punk scene
Yes
But that
I don't think that fed in particularly
Yeah
It's Midwest isn't it Seattle
Is that right
No it's Pacific Northwest
Pacific Northwest
Right
Top
Top left
Up and left
Okay got it
That's how Chris navigates everywhere
It's either up or down
For north or south
And then
Right or left isn't it
Yeah yeah that's it
So up and left
Yeah okay
Is where they are
Yeah
They're not far from
It's not far from Canada
Okay yeah yeah yeah
It's like Vancouver and down a bit
Yeah okay yeah
So if you know where that is
Yeah
Like straight down a bit
Yeah
Oh okay
Not for 120 miles
Yeah yeah yeah
Something like a couple of hours
Yeah
On a bus maybe
Yeah yeah yeah
Who gets a bus
But
Anyway there you go
Released in 1991
That's when the Gulf War ended
The Rodney King
Riots
So we talked about that
Before as well
Yep
When we did
Megadeth
Yeah
That was in the same year
So that those
The Rodney King riots
Were happening outside
A studio while
Megadeth
Were recording
Yeah yeah yeah
And then
In August
The World Wide Web
Was made publicly available
Incredible
No one used it
No
I was at university
And we
A few of us were
Kind of using it
But
Nobody knew
What you were talking about
You had modems
And things
And it was shocking
And nothing was there
All that was there
Was scientists
And students
And mathematicians
Like I had got stuff
Published on the web
In 92
Yeah
And it was just
Some maths
And then
But that's all it was
And then steadily
It went from that
To memes
About
I sent you the best meme
Gordon Whamsey
Doesn't have the best thing ever
So basically
The world's gone
From 1992
Yeah
Mathematical proofs
Yeah
On the web
Yeah
To
Gordon Whamsey
2025
Gordon Whamsey
And if you've not seen
The Gordon Whamsey
You should get on that
It's very very excellent
I loved that
And also
I have to say
You took like
Two days to respond
To that
And I was like
This is the best meme ever
Yeah
What are you
What's wrong with you
I lost my mind a bit this week
Did you
Yeah I did a little bit
To not find that
Like immediately funny
This like
I was like
There's just something wrong with you
Anyway what else
Oh and it's all the dissolution
Of the Soviet Union
In 91
I hadn't realised that
It was the same year
Because if you remember
There was a lot going on wasn't there
Do you remember Metallica
And a load of rock bands
And Skid Row
And they went and did
Peace in Moscow
To like a million and a half
Yeah a million and a half kids
And none of them knew the music
And they were all just going
Absolutely mental
Yeah I remember this
Bon Jovi
Yeah
This is a little story
I like to call The Curse
So the original story
Being told in the song
Is that of a young man
Being made aware of some
Some shocking truths
I know this because I knew the guy
Not well
But
But I knew him
I mean the guy was me
But I barely knew me then
To be honest
I was barely there to be known
And so he takes all this news
Is a curse
And fine the dad's dead
But I'm still alive
And I gotta deal with this
So cut to years later
And we're playing to larger audiences
See a people reacting
In their own
Positive
Interpretation
It was really incredible
When they sing
I'm still alive
You know
It's like they're celebrating
And here's the thing
When they changed the meaning
Of those words
They lifted the curse
It's like they're gonna be in the air
And they're gonna be in the air
So she said
Have I got a little story for you
What you thought was your daddy
Was nothing but her
While we were sitting
Home alone
At 8, 13
The real daddy was dying
Sorry you didn't see them
But I'm glad we talked
I'm still alive
Oh, she walked slow
Across the young man's room
She said
I'm ready
For you
Oh, I can't remember
Anything to this very day
Except the love
The love
Oh, you know where
Now I can see
See, I just stay
I'm still alive
Oh, I'm still alive
I'm still alive
Yeah, I can't remember
Oh, I'm still alive
Yeah, I can't remember
Oh, I'm still alive
Is there something wrong
She said
Of course there is
You're still alive
She said
Oh, I'm still alive
Is that the question
And it's so
It's so
Wind says
I
Oh, I'm still alive
Yeah, I
Oh, I'm still alive
Yeah, I
Oh, I'm still alive
Yeah, I'm still alive
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
guitar solo
I actually love playing that song
That's one of my favourite songs to play
I can't play the riff properly
Yeah
So I just play the chords
Yeah
But it's a lovely song to sing
To drunken mums like that
Yeah they do
Do they prefer that?
Or
What else do you play?
They're like black
As well
Some of them like black
Yeah
When I go and play
Brew in Ashby
Yeah
Which is a good place
Yeah
You should go there
If you're in Ashby
Yeah
Brew is nice
Yeah
John McKinty
Who's a lovely man
He's a very big rock fan
Oh
And he always says
Play Pearl Jam
Does he?
And it's always alive or black
So
Can't go wrong
Can't go wrong with those
Can you?
No
Do you know what I mean?
I think that's
It's nice that people still like that stuff
And I think that it
It fits
Nicely doesn't it
In that
Like
Because you play acoustic a lot with those
Yeah
And you've got the right voice for it as well
Yeah
Well if you ever hear
Remember
So no one listening will know this person
But Mike who does the warhammer painting
Yeah I know Mike
So Mike who
Mike
Was Mike the one that passed out singing
Singing Sematary Gates
Yes
Yes Sematary Gates from Pantera
Hit the high note black
I can't imagine Mike ever doing that
He's got a great voice
He sounds
When he wants to
Yeah
He sounds just like Eddie Vedder
Does he?
And he used to sing black when we were at college
Yeah
And he had big long hair
And he used to sing black
And that was his thing
That he used to sing
And everyone loved it
So yeah it's great
I can't imagine Mike doing
Mike is brilliant at painting
Little warhammer figures isn't he?
Yeah
Very detailed
Very quiet
Yeah
Very funny
Great sense of humour
Yeah good lad
Yeah
Do you know I was doing my
Facts
There's a fact I missed
And it's that the producer
Rick Parashar
You got that right
Plays piano
Organ
And percussion
Oh wow
On quite a few of the tracks
I did not know that
That's very cool actually isn't it
Yeah
It is
Also
It's been used
So the track's been used in the media
But I was just looking at the various things
It's been used on
Why Go was used on American Gods in 2017
Yeah
Which I think is interesting
It's also
You know the
I like American Gods actually
Lindsay recommended a movie called Singles
Okay yeah
Remember it's kind of set in Seattle
Yes
And they use breath and state of love and trust on that
And then there's a few other things that it's been used on
But
Not the songs you'd think
No
No no no no no
No that's very very true
But I thought they were interesting
Yeah
Critical reviews
Everyone just loves it
It's one
There is literally no one who says anything bad about it
Yeah
And there you go
That's it for facts
I'm factored out now
I did like that Brendan O'Brien remix
I know we've alluded to this already
But
The Redux
Yeah the Redux
I really did
Yeah
I thought that was really good
I like the sounds they
They've got a lot of good choices that they made on doing that
It's actually a lot drier
It's a lot more like
The newer Pearl Jam sound
The newer Pearl Jam
Yeah
It's punchier isn't it
Yeah definitely
It's punchier
I think
Yeah
No
It didn't ruin it
It sounds
It sounds alright
Although
I still stand by the fact that for me this is
I don't want it to be redone
Yeah
I kind of
I like the idea that this was recorded in
Like the summer
In Seattle
In this studio
And that's that moment in time
Captured it yeah
Yeah like the emotions of them of kind of
You know
Having lost their friend
Not knowing what's going to go on next
There's no grunge
There isn't a grunge
It became a grunge scene
But at this point
It's they're just
There's just nothing
Yeah
You know I mean the record
The record label's like
Well you know
Sells a bit
Let's go
Do you know what I mean
Let's go and let's go and do some
Do some more stuff
But this is like
People want hair metal
Yeah
They don't want
You know this isn't what people want
No
And that was like just
Kind of forming
And that was the
Do you know what I mean
That's where the band
Were
Yeah
At that point in time
And you know
And the decisions that they took
In the studio at that time
With them
And I always feel that this
Desire to come and
Muck about with stuff afterwards
Is just
Unnecessary
Leave it where it was
I just think it's unnecessary
It doesn't
The Redux one
It does sound good though
I have to be honest
It does sound good
And I think that's probably it
For ten
I think so
It is
I think so
Yeah I love it
I actually like the
They did some MTV and Plug stuff as well
Didn't they
They did do some
I was just looking
I was going to ask you some questions
Do you know how many albums they've done
Oh loads
Have they done like 15
Like one million
They've done 12 studio albums
Guess how many EPs
I don't know
One
Really
Yeah
23 live albums
And it's worth pointing out
That they tour a lot
Yeah they're busy
They're constantly out on the road
One of the things I really loved
When I was reading about the history
Obviously the
The backstory to this
Which we talked about last week
Was
Chris Cornell
Soundgarden
He
Used to
Room share
With Andrew Wood
From Mother Love Bone
And he died of heroin overdose
And then
So Mother Love Bone
Then I've got No Singo
And then the whole thing
Kind of
Snowboard into
Into Pearl Jam
Eventually
What I love about it
Is in 92
Pearl Jam
And Soundgarden
Go out on tour
Yeah lovely
I just really like that
I kind of think that
They're all quite
They all know each other
They're all really good mates
All from the same area
And you just imagine
That being so chilled
I can imagine
Just imagine that
Being absolutely epic
Yeah yeah yeah
But yeah
I think that's going to be
Really cool
You know
About 12 albums
The last one I bought
I think it goes back to
When we were young kids
In punk rock music
Teaching us about certain issues
I mean
We heard about us
In Nashville
And 24
I loved that
They're very consistent
That's the thing I will say
It creates
I know they have
They have these big albums
In the 90s
Then you find yourself
It's interesting
Because then you find yourself
In a situation
Where you can actually
Use your music
To perhaps
To me there's like
A Pearl Jam era
Which is up to Coda
Nowadays lately
We've gotten better at it
Oh okay
No Coda
Sorry
Up to No Coda
And then you've got
A post No Coda
To me
In my mind
And everything
After No Coda
It's a really
Really consistent sound
You can free innocent men
From prison
I love all their albums
But before that
They definitely had like a
You know
I don't know
It's kind of like
They were sort of
Finding who they were
You know
Through that creativity
There's no filler
No no
In any
Like some albums
Some bands are like
Oh we need
It needs to be longer
We need to
Go and write a ballad
Do you know what I mean
And like
It just doesn't happen
With Pearl Jam
No
It just starts
And slams
And then it's them for
You know what I mean
And then it finishes
And it's like
No we're done now
Do you know what I mean
You can imagine
They're a band
I always imagine
There being a band
That like doesn't do an encore
Do you know what I mean
They're like
No we're done now
Finish now
You know what I mean
Yeah yeah yeah
They do that
Slam through the set
And then we're done
You know what I mean
No there's no kind of
Yeah we're coming back now
Yeah
Anyway I just thought
I would mention
Pearl Jam and R.E.M.
They're the two aren't they
There's very little filler
On any of their stuff
I love R.E.M. Live
Yeah yeah
Where I saw them at
I've seen them a couple of times
My favourite
I saw them at Live 8
And they just kind of came out
And said we're Pearl Jam
And this is
We're R.E.M.
And this is what we do
And then they just slam straight
Into the chat
And I just thought
That's a cool way
To introduce yourself
But I thought
It's worth talking about
Because they're 12 albums
And yeah
They're just
Yeah
All of them are really good
And they're a band that
Like lots of bands
Back then
From the 90s
Albums that they've released
In the last few years
Yeah
Have not really set me alight
Yeah
In the same way
Dark Matter
It's got it
It did
I think it's brilliant
It's got it
Such
If you've not listened to
Modern Pearl Jam
And you're still back in the 90s
Yeah
It's well worth a go
They're still doing it
They can still do it
It's worth a blast
Of Dark Matter
I think
I really want to play Oceans
Because I like that one a lot
I like Oceans as well
That's
Yeah
And then we'll maybe talk about
What we'll do next week
What are we doing next week
Don't know
Let's play Oceans
Shall we play this
And think about it
Yeah
Sweet
Hold on to the thread
The currents will shift
Glide me towards you
Who knows something's left
And we're only allowed
To dream of the next
Oh, the next time we need
You don't have to stay
The ocean's away
The waves roll in my thoughts
Oh, tight the rain
Then our sea will rise
Please stand by the shore
Oh, I will be
I will be there once more
Oh, I will be there once more
You know, at some point
I didn't want to do any interviews
And didn't, you know, I wanted to protect
Kind of the songs and where the songs
Were coming from
And I didn't care for what people thought of me
And I still don't
And I probably am a little more concerned
With what they think about the music, you know
I would want the music to be able to come
From like a neutral place
And certainly didn't want some kind of, you know, personality
That got filtered through the media
To be what they thought about when they heard the music
When the spotlight was shining, you know, brightest on us
What are we doing next then?
Oh, we're going to do blind melon
Is that, is it on?
Is it happening?
I think so, why not?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I think we can do what we want
We've said it twice this podcast
So I think it's a sign
Well, why not?
I mean, we, we, there's no, I mean
We can absolutely do what we want, can't we?
I think
Because you said before
I think maybe last week or the week before
About, about kind of heading over
And looking at some of the British stuff
That was going on
I'd love to do
Yeah, I'd love to do that
About this sort of time
I've been, I've got like a playlist that I made
Like kind of 90s British
Yeah, like 90s British stuff
Yeah
And yeah, I've got honestly
There's some of the albums in there
I've just, I just think are brilliant
Yeah, yeah
You know, the, the, like the Almighty
Yeah
Gun, Little Angels
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, we've already covered some
Already with kind of Skunk and Nancy
Yeah, yeah
But like the Wild Hearts
Yeah, yeah
There's tons
I think Thunder were in there
You know, you've got Def Leppard in there as well
We've kind of already covered that
I just, I think it'd be really cool
To kind of go back and cover that 90s
Yeah
British rock scene
The big British rock scene
It was the hard rock
Like that kind of British hard rock scene
Yeah, yeah, yeah
I just think it was just
Just phenomenal
Yeah, absolutely phenomenal
It was kind of just before the Britpop stuff, wasn't it?
It was that just sort of
Yeah, Britpop was kind of happening
Like just a little afterwards
Yeah
But yeah, you had, because you had like
Like Gun were producing big records in 94 and 96
Yeah, yeah
Same time as Oasis and Blur
Okay, yeah, so there was that crossover
Yes, absolutely there
But totally different crew
Yeah, yeah, yeah
You know, you had your Oasis and Blur crew
Your mainstream
Yeah
Crew
And then, and then the kind of
Your rock as the metalers
Were kind of
Yeah, they were
When did Terrorvision sit with that?
Yeah, they were there as well
Yeah, were they sort of in the middle of that?
Absolutely
Because they really crossed over into that
They did, yeah
Well, they were quite poppy, weren't they?
Yeah, yeah
They did some stuff like that
But there were tons of, I think, phenomenal albums
And bands like Little Angels
Yeah, yeah
Supergrass
Supergrass, yeah
They were a bit crossover as well, weren't they?
Yeah, yeah, yeah
They weren't quite as heavy
Although they did do Richard III
That was a big heavy song
Weren't they like 12 years old or something?
They were very young, weren't they?
Great band though
But yeah, do you know
Yeah
Yeah, let's do some of that then
I think so
I think that for me
Oh, Manson
Do you remember Manson?
Well, look down my list
I've got Little Angels, Thunder, Gun, The Almighty, The Wild Hearts, Terror Vision, Therapy
Therapy
Manic Street Preachers
Yes
Oh, let's do some of that
Let's go there
I think so
I think we just kind of go and start in the UK
And then just carry on until we get bored
And you just do like a 90s
Do you know what I mean?
Like just do a kind of an early 90s
Yeah, great
Run through of those British ones
Yeah, it'd be nice
Because I was a little bit young for those
So there were those albums there
Like those bands that I know
You're going to love some of these
Some of these albums
I'll need to revisit
Some of these albums I think you'll have never heard of
But you'll fall in love with
There's like Young Gods from Little Angels
Yeah
I just think it's one of the best albums ever made
Yeah, yeah
No one's ever heard of it
Do you know what I mean?
It's one of those that people just haven't heard of
And then there's others as well
I mean, Gun of Thunder and The Almighty as well
They did some phenomenal records
Yeah, yeah
It'd be nice to go into Cranberries as well
With No Need to Argue and things like that
Yeah, there's all kinds of stuff
And that was a bit later
That was probably a bit later into that
It was, yeah
But there's some brilliant stuff
Yeah, you did have Therapy
And of course you've got The Wild Hearts
Yeah, yeah
The new Wild Hearts album's great
Yeah, yeah
If anybody's missed that
Although Ginger sacked the entire band
Yeah
And then started a new band
Yeah
Still sounds like The Wild Hearts
Yeah
So, which is pretty good
If we're going to do this Blind Melon thing
I wanted to
You know the album Blind Melon
Starts with a track called Soak the Sin
Right
Do you know what the first line of the album
No, no
The first lyric is
I've got to buy some shoes
These ones are getting loose
Oh, nice
And I like that
I just thought it was lovely
My feet are shrinking in the sun
It ain't fun
But it looks like rain up ahead
In 40 miles
Oh, it's that song
Yeah, yeah, yeah
A big rainbow took the blue sky
Yeah
I like
I like songs with those kind of
You know those kind of
Yeah
I just
I like that kind of thing
Looking forward to doing this one
It's going to be really good
And then
Yeah, then doing some
We've not done
What
We did
I'm trying to think of what British stuff
We've done
Do you know what I would love to do
It might
I don't know
It might not be appropriate for our listeners
But I would love to do like 60s and 70s
British
Yeah
You know the kind of
The heavy stuff
No, the prog
Oh, the prog stuff
Okay
Yeah
Where
Oh, you know
There's tons of kind of like
Emerson Lake and Palmer
Yes
Yeah
Genesis
Yeah, Genesis
You know
And
You know what
You know what mate
This is our podcast
Do what we want
The reason I wanted to do it
You know
Is because I watched that documentary
Called Hypnosis
Yes
I remember you saying about that
About the album art
Yeah, yeah, yeah
And it just
It's incredible
It's just this
That scene
Do what we want can't we
Let's do
Let's go
Blind Melon
Then British Heavy Rock
And then we'll go back in time a bit
Well I think we'll figure out
What comes after that
Because we've got to go
And find another scene somewhere
At that point
Haven't we
And figure out
What comes
What comes next
Where can we go next
There's a whole bunch of stuff
That we could do
Of like just scenes
There's like
The death metal scene
Yeah
Because like
You ended up with kind of thrash
And then that moved into death
Yeah
And then
And then that scene
Kind of grew
Do you know what I mean
And it's got this
Yeah
I mean the same thing
It's got like
Studios and producers
Yeah, yeah, yeah
And then there was kind of
What was happening in the US
And then what was happening
Over in Sweden
Yeah
And there are different sounds
And stuff
So that's something
I would really like to do
Yeah, yeah, yeah
There's probably some punk stuff
We should look at as well
Do you know
There's a bunch of punk
I'm not a massive punk fan
But there's like a couple of albums
Like Grey Britain from Gallows
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Always find myself going back to that one
That's a great record
Isn't it?
Yeah
Yeah, there's a bunch of these
Kind of big scenes
Gallows are fantastic
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah
And then
But then
I mean we could do Britpop stuff
I mean it depends
I don't know
Where
Called Rufology
Do what we want
If we want to do it
Whatever
That's what we're doing
Whatever
We do iconic albums
Doesn't matter from what era
What style
What it is
It's an iconic album
We could do Beyonce if we wanted
We're probably not going to
But
No, I can't imagine us doing that one
Hey, were we just
We were both just like
Is this Beyonce album
Did Jay-Z produce it?
Yeah
I bet he did
Yeah, more bass
I bet that's what he did
Yeah
Put more bass on it
Yeah, more bass on it
I'll be in
Because that's how Jay-Z speaks
And I feel like we've gone way off pace now
We've done what we need to do here
I hope you've enjoyed the show
Next one is Bly Mellon
I think that I'll say bye-bye to Seattle for a bit
Yeah
We've covered a lot of Seattle bands actually
Yeah, we've done well
Although there's more
There's Caius
Oh God
Yeah, there's tons of what we could do
Isn't there?
Yeah
Maybe we've not finished with Seattle just yet
Because I'd quite like to do Caius
Which one?
Yeah, and then that leads into the Queens of South
We've got to do Songs for the Deaf at some point
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
I don't think we've quite finished with Seattle just yet
Yeah
Do you?
I don't know
There's so much
I don't want to come
I don't want to leave
Yeah
It's a long way
Yeah, no, come back again
Seattle's like a 10-hour flight
Yeah
I want to leave
And then I have to go back again
Yeah
Oh
Let's see
Let's just do Blind Melon
Shall we see how we feel?
And then we'll see how we feel next week
We might be bored of Seattle
And we might need to come and do something else
Yeah, a bit of Caius sludge though
That'd be nice
Stoner sludge is lovely, isn't it?
Yeah
What was that documentary where it talks about Caius?
The desert sessions and all that
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Which one?
I can't remember
Which is a documentary?
And there's a new Spinal Tap coming
Did you know?
Have you seen this?
Yeah
Spinal Tap 2?
Yeah
Yeah, but really though?
It's a new one
Is it going to be any good?
No
It's going to be rubbish, isn't it?
It's going to be like
My kids want to go and see the Minecraft movie
No
I've got to take them tomorrow
Have you taken them?
Do you know what I've got to do tomorrow?
I wish I could visualise this
Tomorrow I've got to do gardening
Yes
And go to the Minecraft movie
No
I wouldn't bother
Drop them off
Just no
Just drop them off
Just no
I can eat Maltesers
I'm going to stuff my face with Maltesers
That's what I'm going to do
I think we're done
Shall we be done?
We'll be done
Love you bye